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Poster: lobster12 Date: Jun 24, 2009 1:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

Hey BD have you heard the stuff McBride has been doing with Hornsby?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 24, 2009 1:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

No, but I've seen him several times. He's mindblowingly good.

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Poster: JC Edwards Date: Jun 24, 2009 1:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

As a Bassist myself, I must lay this matter to rest. Please read closely this list:

Jaco Pastorius
Phil Lesh
Chris Squire
Jack Bruce
Larry Graham
Stanley Clarke
John Entwistle
RANDY JO HOBBS!
Jack Casady
Paul McCartney

Mingus and Scott LaFaroe would be in a realm all their own.

Enough said. Class Dismissed.

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Jun 24, 2009 2:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

I'm surprised to see Chris Squire so high on your list, but he was the only thing I ever liked about Yes, and now I feel kind of vindicated.

Windham Hill put out some great stuff in the 70's, but I was always more partial to ECM, who had Jaco, Eberhard Weber, Jan Garbarek, and even Oregon, I think.

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Poster: edgehead 2 Date: Jun 24, 2009 3:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

Indeed. John Abercrombie as well (who looks like Col Bruce Hampton's brother...). Oregon has some excellent albums. e

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Jun 24, 2009 3:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

I have some amazingly good Oregon SB or SB-quality shows from a variety of years that I picked up mostly on Dime-A-Dozen. I'm in an office 8 hours a day and find that I mostly listen to them, Miles, and Durutti Column for office space-out music.

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Poster: edgehead 2 Date: Jun 24, 2009 3:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

Very nice. I'll have to check those shows out. Thanks for the heads up. e

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Poster: JC Edwards Date: Jun 25, 2009 12:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

Chris could and can do more on a 4 string bass than most guitarist's can do with 6 string's!

And of course we all know about Phil and Bomb's.....he invented them! :-D

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 25, 2009 7:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

Looks like my hero, Jack Bruce comes up regularly in these lists...I dunno tech/musical talent/etc aspects to evaluate them all by, but as I always babble on about, I know what I like, and JB has always been my # 1 bass player.

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Poster: fireeagle Date: Jun 25, 2009 5:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: no berry!!!???

u would have to live a million years to eventually hear a better bass player than the late, unsurpassed BERRY OAKLEY

my list is somewhat different

berry oakley
allen woody
lemmy killminster
john paul jones
roger glover
phil lesh
jack casady
jack bruce
gerry mc avoy
felix pappalardi
phil lynott

disordered, coz its only rock and roll

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Poster: JC Edwards Date: Jun 25, 2009 8:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: no berry!!!???

Is there no one else that has any love for Randy Jo Hobbs? :-(

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 25, 2009 8:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: no berry!!!???

I'm still waiting for someone to introduce Mike Watt or Les Claypool into the mix....

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Poster: Estimated Pete Date: Jun 25, 2009 8:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: no berry!!!???

I did. And I also mentioned "Brooklyn" BOBBY Sheehan.

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Poster: barongsong Date: Jun 25, 2009 8:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: no berry!!!???

I'm really bad with names but one of the best rock bass performances I ever saw live was this guy with a huge mohawk who played with Santana. This was in Reno NV. either late 89 or early 90 and he wasn't with the band when I saw them later that year. Another guy that surprised me live was Tony Sales of Tin Machine in 89.

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Poster: barongsong Date: Jun 25, 2009 8:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: no berry!!!???

I'm really bad with names but one of the best rock bass performances I ever saw live was this guy with a huge mohawk who played with Santana. This was in Reno NV. either late 89 or early 90 and he wasn't with the band when I saw them later that year. Another guy that surprised me live was was Tony Sales of Tin Machine in 89.

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Poster: Estimated Pete Date: Jun 25, 2009 1:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

What about Les Claypool and Bobby Sheehan. They certainly should be in the discussion. No?

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Poster: JC Edwards Date: Jun 25, 2009 7:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

EP.....that ould be BILLY Sheehan. :-)

He sucks donkey ass!! Les is ok.....a little too sloppy though.

Berry Oakley Sr., John Paul Jones, James Jamerson ( all of which were influences on my playing early on) are all very fine bassist's and choices as well.

Edgehead 2......I also played fretless for quite a while. Thinking about picking up another one some time soon.

Of course my "baby" for the last dozen years now would NEVER be retired:



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Poster: Estimated Pete Date: Jun 25, 2009 8:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

I meant Bobby Sheehan. The late great Brooklyn Bobby from Blues Traveler. No slouch.

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Poster: JC Edwards Date: Jun 25, 2009 8:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

OIC. Never knew his name. Thanks for the info my man. ;-)

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Poster: pokeyloki Date: Jun 25, 2009 5:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

What about Felix Pappalardi?

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Poster: edgehead 2 Date: Jun 25, 2009 11:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

Very nice JC! I found it somewhat difficult to switch between fretted/fretless so i've been with Pedulla since the late 80's.

Hazaa to the Bottom Feeders!! e

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Poster: edgehead 2 Date: Jun 24, 2009 1:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

As another bass player (fretless), i need to add

Michael Manring

And, yes, I like Windham Hill music (especially Michael Hedges). e

(Growing up i would have added Geddy Lee and Steve Harris)

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Poster: rastamon Date: Jun 24, 2009 7:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

what? no love for Mike Gordon? (or do i have to be a 12year old girl)
But really, his is an awesome bass player, ask Phil

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 25, 2009 6:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

I don't know Phish, but I love what he and Kottke did together...not very inventive, song wise, but great, great sound...

He doesn't seem to get much love, does he?

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Poster: Morning Dewd Date: Jun 25, 2009 7:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

must be that alleged pedophile thing.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 25, 2009 7:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

Really? I had no idea!

Crap, just as Earl and I were speaking the other day about the degree to which "off stage" (personality, rap sheet, whatever) antics impact our appreciation of the "art"...

Hmmm, now some of those photos of the two of them, Leo and Mike, horsing around, make a little more sense...? Well, okay, not really.

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Poster: Morning Dewd Date: Jun 25, 2009 7:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

"...there was not sufficient evidence to prove the charges beyond a reasonable doubt"
http://www.allbusiness.com/retail-trade/miscellaneous-retail-retail-stores-not/4622927-1.html

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Jun 24, 2009 3:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

Bruce Foxton
Bruce Thomas
Tina Weymouth
Pete Farndon
Hilary Stench
Walter Becker
Colin Moulding
Brian Cole
Tracy Wentworth
Sir Horace



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Poster: JC Edwards Date: Jun 25, 2009 1:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

Q! Tina Weymouth?! Well she's a fine "steady" bassist I suppose........

Now.....how about letting us have the Moonraker for a weekend jaunt?.........

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Jun 25, 2009 4:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

I included Weymouth because she isn't 'generic'. I can recognize her playing by its style, which is saying something. (Check out "New Feeling" on '77' for an example).

Moonraker is right out, "J", because last time we found you pumping something other than oxygen through the air supply... I'm not clear on what "O.G. Kush Gas" is, but my department is looking into it...

Also:

Tony Levin
Hugh Hopper
Mark Sandman
Graham Maby
Stephen Hanley
Rob Greene
Chris Murphy

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This post was modified by Styrofoam Cueball on 2009-06-25 23:47:43

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Poster: yesss! Date: Jun 24, 2009 4:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

just for fun, and in no order, my top ten...

aston family man barrett!
paul jackson
paul mccartney
dave holland
james jamerson
bootsy collins
rocco prestia
bernard odum
phil lesh
jaco pastorious

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Jun 24, 2009 5:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

Great choices, yesss!

This post was modified by Styrofoam Cueball on 2009-06-25 00:54:58

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Poster: Pork Soda Date: Jun 25, 2009 6:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jaco Pastorious better than Phil

here's a few more not mentioned in this thread,
Victor Wooten
George Porter Jr.
Mike Watt
Brian Ritchie
John Wetton
Rob Wasserman Donald "Duck" Dunn
Billy Cox
Alphonso Johnson
Dave Schools
Dee Dee Ramone

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